Child porn, Warez, and Carding.... What can we do about it?

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Gohan
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Child porn, Warez, and Carding.... What can we do about it?

Post by Gohan »

Hello friends, TheGohan here. Quite a large number of Undernet users have voiced their opinions on the rule enforcement (or the lack thereof) concerning the trading or other commissioning of child pornographic material, Credit card (carding) channels, Warez trading channels, and other channels which host a place for illegal activities to occur. These problems plague us every day, everywhere. Why does undernet fail to stop such abuse? Is there anything that we (the users) can do to help combat such activity? There are a lot of these questions being asked, and none being answered. I am starting this thread in attempt to get users to talk about this, and share some of their thoughts and ideas.

This thread should not be used to blame anyone for the continuance of these problems, but a place where legitimate questions can be asked and answered from some of undernet's most knowledgeable people. So, If you feel that you have ideas which can stop these type of illegal problems, or have questions about it, Feel free to make a post here.

Undernet's users play a vital role in the development of the network and it's policies, We would sure appreciate your thoughts on this, as we continue to build a great network for great people, like you.

Do you think you can stop this illegal pandemic? Do you know where such activities are taking place? Let's work together to find the solution. The time is now, Your ideas and comments could make a difference!
--I've tried so hard, and got so far, But in the End, It doesn't even matter.

Xaifas
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Post by Xaifas »

Lol you are so wrong, our ideas and comments doesent count SH*T!
Before starting to troll this forum .. do a favor and lock it/delte it since there is allready made an thread for this things. (Check Seekndestroy's one)

END :evil:
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xplora
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Post by xplora »

Gohan wrote:Hello friends, TheGohan here. Quite a large number of Undernet users have voiced their opinions on the rule enforcement (or the lack thereof) concerning the trading or other commissioning of child pornographic material, Credit card (carding) channels, Warez trading channels, and other channels which host a place for illegal activities to occur. These problems plague us every day, everywhere. Why does undernet fail to stop such abuse? Is there anything that we (the users) can do to help combat such activity? There are a lot of these questions being asked, and none being answered. I am starting this thread in attempt to get users to talk about this, and share some of their thoughts and ideas.


Undernet doesn't fail, it promotes the idea of reporting such activity to the police, or other appropriate law enforcement agency, which is what users should do to help combat such activity. If you wish to claim someone is failing to stop "such abuse", then the fault belongs with the police/law enforcement agencies expected to police such behaviour.

Gohan wrote:This thread should not be used to blame anyone for the continuance of these problems, but a place where legitimate questions can be asked and answered from some of undernet's most knowledgeable people. So, If you feel that you have ideas which can stop these type of illegal problems, or have questions about it, Feel free to make a post here.

Undernet's users play a vital role in the development of the network and it's policies, We would sure appreciate your thoughts on this, as we continue to build a great network for great people, like you.

Do you think you can stop this illegal pandemic? Do you know where such activities are taking place? Let's work together to find the solution. The time is now, Your ideas and comments could make a difference!


Undernet recommends that any illegal activity found be reported to the police or other law enforcement agency.
xplora @ undernet.org
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Undernet Channel Services Committee

Xaifas
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Post by Xaifas »

Lol xplora .... U mean i have to call 911 and tell them that there is an warez chan on undernet? ....
That shows how much does undernet cares about this things, i mean cmon who in the name of god would go to police to for this kind of stuff? or if so why dont you go to police? or other law orgs ... this is absurd ... you can all take care of this problems with few commands, but nooooo you rather troll the forums for 2 bloody years telling us that you cant do a thing .. its not that you cant, you dont want to....
Honestly i dont even know why am I still posting in this pathetic forum ... :evil: goodbye undernet ... gona go waste my time on a drones free network... :x
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xplo
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Post by xplo »

xplora wrote:Undernet recommends that any illegal activity found be reported to the police or other law enforcement agency.


Untill then Undernet Don't Really bother to close these channels, just feel free to go and see for yourself.

type /list then sort them by names, and look for the channels names starting by #0!!!!!!!...

then, tell me your doing something..

Do you really think that the police/agencies really "bust" even 1% of these pedofiles/necrofiles/a$$holes ...

your the oper, your the one with proper tools, and your even a csc co-ordonator...

you have the power to make a channel massgline and then to put a service bot in there and set modes +Dms

(i am sure that you will tell me... "they will scatter away in other les obvious channel names" )

if you can't do something right for undernet then why are you a oper/csc..?? cauz you have nice eyes? or your a linux junkie?? Wakeup.. This will NEVER end untill you decide to do something!!!!!

if you decide to do nothing, then i suggest you to "retire" cauz your ABSOLUTELY useless to the network.

Can someone remember me what does undernet's staff is here for..... why do we have "sleeping opers"

(This post is in my opinion, and opinions are free to everyone, i really think that the opers/admins/staff are doing nothing to help/clean the network and this should change)
Go to hell with your questions, my time is done here. It was fun, but this network is sooooo corrupted by morons, its not worth it.

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Post by Wolfyx »

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xplo
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Post by xplo »

well it is true that the staff do absolutely nothing except power abuse, and fooling around..

if they were, we would have seen some changes, and there is none done.

There is a lack of professionalism on this network and the judgement of xplora (as stated above) is LAME' STUPID AND FILLED UP WITH NON-SENS.

Your the "main Admin" that (we) know of, so your in charge dude. don't evade your responsibility, and don't pull the "unmoderated network" lame card.

YOU CAN DO SOMETHING BUT YOUR TOO LAZY TO DO IT!!

imm thinking that i will alert the media soon, and do EVERYTHING i can to close down Undernet DEFINITIVELY.

i am sure that a lot of people would be happy to know that there is a irc network with at least 10,000 visitors a day that evetyone could go to seek for..

kiddy porn, wares, serials, cracks, hacks, mp3, videos, movies.. and imm sure these people will bee more then happy to see us all disconnect and never reconnect again.
Go to hell with your questions, my time is done here. It was fun, but this network is sooooo corrupted by morons, its not worth it.

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Gohan
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Post by Gohan »

Xplora, I did not say undernet fails. As a matter of fact, I am rather aware of Undernet's partnership with VGT and other agencies. I think undernet is doing fairly well with stopping what could be a worse epidemic. However, There's LOTS of users who do not understand this, and simply want to know a *GOOD* reason why CSC and Opercom simply cant lock the channels which are known to have a bad history on these abusive instances. I am simply promoting the topic, and I do not hold undernet accountable for this happening. I want to make that VERY clear.

It boils down to the sick and twisted individuals who partake in these actions, They are the ones to blame.

As previously stated in the top part of this thread, This forum is not for pointing fingers, but for legit questions.

As a nastrander and a 10 year undernet member, I work along side the people who could stop some of the things, but they wont, nor will they give reason.

We just want answers on how to stop it, etc.... Xplora's post encourages users to contact their local law enforcement agency concerning these incidents. That's a good suggestion.
--I've tried so hard, and got so far, But in the End, It doesn't even matter.

Rufus
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Post by Rufus »

i am sure that a lot of people would be happy to know that there is a irc network with at least 10,000 visitors a day that evetyone could go to seek for..

kiddy porn, wares, serials, cracks, hacks, mp3, videos, movies.. and imm sure these people will bee more then happy to see us all disconnect and never reconnect again.


Undernet is not all about cracks/porn/bots. It`s also a very common place where people find real solution to their problem ( i`m talking about all the specialized help channels that provide real time feedback regarding real life problems).
Now screaming to the admins does not solve the issue. Maybe giving good solutions, brainstorming a bit it`s alot more constructive.
"It`s not what Undernet can do for you, but what you can do for Undernet".

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Post by xplo »

post deleted, sine i talk too much for nothing
Last edited by xplo on Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:45 am, edited 1 time in total.
Go to hell with your questions, my time is done here. It was fun, but this network is sooooo corrupted by morons, its not worth it.

xplo
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Post by xplo »

Jail wrote:"It`s not what Undernet can do for you, but what you can do for Undernet".

I love this quote from Jail, god bless his soul.



Btw, this is my last post. i will never talk about this again.. looks like its useless..

Hafe fun Undernet!

and have fun with your drones.

Call me we will make a Party!!
Go to hell with your questions, my time is done here. It was fun, but this network is sooooo corrupted by morons, its not worth it.

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Post by sirAndrew »

Wolfyx wrote:Here we go again Image



:classic: :classic: :classic:
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8 years on this forum and i'm still the #1 poster around.

GmbH
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Post by GmbH »

Gohan wrote:Hello friends, TheGohan here. Quite a large number of Undernet users have voiced their opinions on the rule enforcement (or the lack thereof) concerning the trading or other commissioning of child pornographic material, Credit card (carding) channels, Warez trading channels, and other channels which host a place for illegal activities to occur. These problems plague us every day, everywhere. Why does undernet fail to stop such abuse? Is there anything that we (the users) can do to help combat such activity? There are a lot of these questions being asked, and none being answered. I am starting this thread in attempt to get users to talk about this, and share some of their thoughts and ideas.

This thread should not be used to blame anyone for the continuance of these problems, but a place where legitimate questions can be asked and answered from some of undernet's most knowledgeable people. So, If you feel that you have ideas which can stop these type of illegal problems, or have questions about it, Feel free to make a post here.

Undernet's users play a vital role in the development of the network and it's policies, We would sure appreciate your thoughts on this, as we continue to build a great network for great people, like you.

Do you think you can stop this illegal pandemic? Do you know where such activities are taking place? Let's work together to find the solution. The time is now, Your ideas and comments could make a difference!



Pls remember : #Cservice has 2 or 3 Trainees that r wtih carding and hacking servers :) so dont be sad
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Crys
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Post by Crys »

GmbH wrote:Pls remember : #Cservice has 2 or 3 Trainees that r wtih carding and hacking servers :) so dont be sad


Such statements are just stated without actually thinking when one is doing this, I know you -- so now I am wondering -- how could you say such things ? Have you ever helped on #cservice ? Have you ever seen someone on #cservice telling you on private if you want to "trade" or whatsoever ? As far as I know I have never seen you on that channel so please, for God's sake, stop saying such things.

Sorry for being so tough with you, but it is not fair for some users to be called that way just because someone said something like that about him/her.
Just a wise head on young shoulders.