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Keops · Post by **Keops** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:46 am

Coders should implement a feature that would allow /list do display only registered channels. This way a user can avoid seeing those huge ammount of annoying warez, hacks, mp3 and droned channels.

OUTsider · Post by **OUTsider** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:42 am

Doing that would cost a tremendous amount of resources, since the code would need to check every channel for the presence of a service before adding it to a list. And having an ircu server loop through 100k of channels every time someone does a /list and checking through all the members in that channel to check if a service is present is just not healthy.

In order to make it using less resources, you would require a new channel flag like other ircds do (like +r on dalnet like servers)

Keops · Post by **Keops** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:34 pm

why check for X on all channels when X has all registered channel stored in its dbase? all the servers got to do is access that list and paste it into the users dialog box.

Mitko · Post by **Mitko** » Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:46 pm

So, the ircu /list should check the cservice db ? Bleah, this is the worst suggestion I have ever read :lol:

OUTsider · Post by **OUTsider** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:37 am

Keops wrote:why check for X on all channels when X has all registered channel stored in its dbase? all the servers got to do is access that list and paste it into the users dialog box.

First of all, for security reasons, ircu will NOT connect to the database.

Second, adding support to even do this would require all admins to install stuff they actually dont need and would consume even more resources then the previous option.

Third, some channels should not be listed (+s/+p/special chans, etc)

Keops · Post by **Keops** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:37 am

X should write the channels list to a server file and refresh it periodically (ex. 30 mins). And if someone would want to /list only registered channels, the server will copy the list from that server file and should add the comment: Last time refreshed: day/month/year - hh:mm

I dont think this is a dumb idea at all. i think cservice admin staff should really consider adding this feature because it will atract more serious people on undernet instead of lamers and flooders. Usually when newcomers visit an IRC network they do /list to find out channels to chat in and after some minutes taken to load all those 30000 channels what do they get? mp3passion, freewares, zurna, hacker`s and other places like this. while if they are given only registered ones they get channels like: #bucuresti, #romania, #cservice and other places where chat can be a more civilized thing.

If they cant add this to /list i think it should be added to cservice site at least. A section named: registered channels list. should be quite interesting to browse through all registered channels

Stefanoo · Post by **Stefanoo** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:26 am

in fact i wonder who types /list
it takes me one hour to get the list of all the channels.
man undernet is huge forget it.

zmolensky · Post by **zmolensky** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:25 pm

Hey

After reading all posts from this topic I have to say that this suggestion is useless: requires resources and the most important that regular users are not looking to join a registered channel. In the end is just IRC - Internet Relay CHAT - users looking for a nice channel to chat have some quality moments, joke, fun and hang around, they dont care if the channel is registered or not if that channel offers fun ...

Thank you for your time.

Compy · Post by **Compy** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:35 pm

The concept is a good idea, however as OUTSider said it would consume a tremendous amount of resources. In reality the IRCD and services should be as isolated from each other as possible. Not to mention having to transfer a list would really bend the IRCD protocol out of it's simplicity. Still it's not a bad idea, but it would cost more than it gives back.

Keops · Post by **Keops** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:59 pm

then it should be added as a site addon at least. that'll be simpler and more efficient. btw.. that channel search engine doesn't seem to work so well. when i search for channels i get either channels that don't exist or no channels at all :-?

Mitko · Post by **Mitko** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:30 pm

If you are talking about http://www.undernet.org/channelweb.php - it doesn't work. It was last updated about 1 year and a half ago :-)

Anyway, that's website related and not related to the IRCu/GNUWorld. It was discussed here ( http://forum.undernet.org/viewtopic.php?t=1775 ) but seems like still not fixed.

/me waves to the webmasters

Best Regards,
Mit

TheAbyss · Post by **TheAbyss** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:34 pm

X has its own database to find a channel (if i'm not wrong) and comfusing server with channel service is wrong in my opinion. You can maintain a channel withought Channel services so if u r searching for a channel containing X in it just use X... if not use /list...

Mitko · Post by **Mitko** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:57 pm

No, the X search was based on the channel keywords, but that search feature is disabled now.

Best Regards.

TheAbyss · Post by **TheAbyss** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:59 pm

Oh thanks for correcting me

I remember now... i didn't knew it was disabled though

Keops · Post by **Keops** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:10 pm

you should at least get that web search page fixed, or remove it rather than allowing an out of order service :roll:

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