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[Help] How come .RO Ip's will not be allowed on Undernet.

Post by GmbH »

Can we pls talk here about this problem , we need to know when undernet.org will stop the connection from .RO Ip`s , and if this is a problem that will be resolved soon or it takes time
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Etherfast
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Post by Etherfast »

Mitko, see this.

Due to constant Denial-of-Service attacks from your country, .RO users are not welcome on London2.UK..
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--14:13:17-- Closing Link: Fridolin by London2.UK.EU.Undernet.Org (K-lined)

Gmbh, I don't think this will be followed up by all of the servers, as this would mean discrimination. London2.uk is probably just a server that doesn't want to have anything to do with the Romanian people.
Anyawy, Bucharest.Ro.* allows only connections from Romania, and I doubt they will take any actions.

My two cents...
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Post by Compy »

You have to look at it from the perspective of the administrators. Often when ISPs are emailed for abusive reasons, they do not often comply by dealing with their customers. Here you have little internet service providers in romania, all of which have similar ips, and poor abuse teams. When you have floodnets/hacking/carding etc coming from these IP's and pending abuse reports that are rarely dealt with (in a timely manner at least), it leaves the administrators no other choice than to block out IP ranges such as the ones belonging to users in Romania.

It isn't likely that the ban would be global any time soon (if at all), its likely just on london.* (and the choice for that is made by the server administrator if they can warrant the ban).

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sirAndrew
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Post by sirAndrew »

Undernet will take no decission to block all romanian ips as that would be racism. If Undernet wouldn`t want romanians on the network, they would first delink Bucharest.Ro.Eu.Undernet.Org which is out of the question.

However the Undernet Admins Committee cannot forbit a server admin to block a certain range of ips. So that is only a local decission there are 20 servers left to connect on, and my advice would be if you live in romania to use the romanian server, it will ensure you a faster and stable connection.
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Post by lemuel »

Well if you're klined from other servers you can connect to another server.. isn't that easy? :o
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Post by GmbH »

Etherfast you know that if they think that by closing the conntion from the .RO ip`s here on undernet they will close only the irc cafe`s , and if they do that :) i don`t know what will happen with #romania , #bucuresti , #constanta and all the big .ro channels. Hacker`s or should i mean haxors will flood the network again , they can`t stop this flood procedure :) a haxor will not stay on a .ro ip , you guys will see :) . Connection from *.zm ( i see that on a guy and wonder what is *.zm and know i have the answer :D *.zm= zambia ) If they will really close the connection from the .RO ip`s they will have more haxors. I will buy a shell *.org and i will stay there. The irc cafe`s will lose the clients and undernet.org will have the same problem with "the flooders"
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Post by tommytee »

It's not really about .ro flooders/hackers/haxors/etc(ofcourse they are the reason wich made this situation to happen) .. Each server has the power to offer access only for some ip range/category, after all it's the admin decision whether they allow or not for some people to connect, and I'm sure that anyone of us will do the same if 'you' see a country domanin abusing continuously
As you guys said before, Bucharest.Ro.* allows connections only from Romania ( afaik Ukrainia and Hungary have access to it too ). This doesn't means that other servers will do the same....


I personally see this as a good method(not reffering to blacklisting), why to use a server from UK when I have my own, a few km nearby... or a closer one like, let's say Zagreb..
Each server with his 'nearby zone'.


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Post by GmbH »

tommytee you can say that we can use bucharest.ro.eu.* or zagreb.hr.eu.* but if a user will connect to bucharest.ro.eu.* he will see that this server has only 15 maxchannels , and if he does /msg x info his_username and he has 20 channels where he has acces, he will connect to Bucharest.ro.eu.* or he will try something like Miami.fl.us.* ? Bucharest.ro.eu* is on RDS provider ( Romanian Data System ) and i heard for a friend who use RDS on his pc that he for joining mIRC on undernet he has to use RDS server here on undernet. We user`s here on undernet if we have 30 acc on a username we will use Bucharest.ro.eu.* that has 15 maxchannels ? I`m not saying that Zagreb.hr.eu.* have 15 maxchannels but if you have a username and you have some acc on the username you will try to connect to a server with 20+ maxchannels
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Post by GmbH »

and 2nd thing : Bucharest.ro.eu.* has 6500-7000 clients - Miami.fl.us.* has 19000-20000 clients , why is that ? can you tell me ?
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Post by sirAndrew »

Because miami and the rest of us servers are full of drones, bots, bnc ran by romanian users that`s why!! : :devil:
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Post by lemuel »

wohoo.. if some of the Romanians Ip is blocked on some servers of this network it doesn't mean that they don't allow RO's to connect on it but this is just a precaution to prevent flooding on the server(s).. Even me myself I'm also klined on some servers stating *NO DRONES ALLOWED* this is just an example on how to make your server clean. However I agree with tommytee it's just a LOCAL DECISION and Undernet has nothing to deal with it, but it's on the SERVER ADMIN's side if they take the risk or not. So just chill' and I see no harm connectiing to another server, right?

About the MAXCHANNEL that's what they put on the server and nothing you can do about it EXCEPT to suggest or make some comments. If you have a username having access of about 20+ channels then Miami/Zagreb and other servers have this option so that you can join all the channels you wanted.

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Post by Wolfyx »

Didn`t read all the replies, just the subject, and if abusing and flooding and ddosing won`t stop soon, and will get worse, i`ll understand if server admins vote to have *!*@*.ro klined even if i`m a .ro. Just hope all the server flooders will stop and undernet won`t be forced to take such a decision, though it *may* block and deny some .ro abusers that are a pain in the butt for all of us
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Post by GmbH »

Wolfyx let`s try to understand the official`s , they will close the .ro ip`s , so ? what will happend you think that the flood against undernet will stop. Pls remember guys you can`t find a haxor on a .ro ip`s , i have never seen this on a haxor. So if undernet will close the connection for .Ro ip`s that is no good , it will be something for those .ro users who will have to us a shell and stay on undernet. Haxor = crackin` legal linux server`s . Now i know from a guys who call himseft a haxor that is a new exploit for php , so you will don`t have to worry alot :) the flood will be on undernet if undernet will decive to close the .ro ip`s or they don`t. Haxor`s never flood from .Ro Linux connection
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