Search found 11 matches

by SteveC
Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:34 pm
Forum: General / IRC Help
Topic: Annyoing "security" policy
Replies: 63
Views: 138414

Re: Annyoing "security" policy

I see that you think yours is the correct/proper/only(?) way things should be done. Obviously not everyone agrees, including the group that runs Undernet and/or those they hand off the workload to. Not really. But I cannot really understand the reasoning behind it when it's easy to implement a solu...
by SteveC
Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:49 pm
Forum: General / IRC Help
Topic: Annyoing "security" policy
Replies: 63
Views: 138414

Re: Annyoing "security" policy

You really think the Undernet is the last bastion of freedom? Undernet may not be the last bastion, but if everybody says "someone else can do it" then nobody will. It's easy to point at someone else and suggest he does it. I am seriously suggesting that if you feel that freedom is having...
by SteveC
Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:47 pm
Forum: General / IRC Help
Topic: Annyoing "security" policy
Replies: 63
Views: 138414

Re: Annyoing "security" policy

http://it.slashdot.org/story/12/12/09/2315249/tor-network-used-to-command-skynet-botnet Interesting... seems to me to be another black mark against TOR. m Interesting... seems to me to be another black mark against IRC. m Interesting... seems to me to be another black mark against guns. m Interesti...
by SteveC
Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:14 pm
Forum: General / IRC Help
Topic: Annyoing "security" policy
Replies: 63
Views: 138414

Re: Annyoing "security" policy

Asher, 1, because the people that could do anything about it won't because they have long since decided to block Tor, and do not support it in anyway. 2. because those same people do not read this forum. As for all the other issues raised in this thread, I have already said my piece, and I support ...
by SteveC
Sat May 14, 2011 4:23 pm
Forum: General / IRC Help
Topic: Annyoing "security" policy
Replies: 63
Views: 138414

Re: Annyoing "security" policy

And once again more than a month passed without any serious replies from the staff. No surprise users flee from Undernet. It's kinda sad to see an old network die, but if the staff isn't interested in solving problems and adapting to user requests, then it's probably for the best that it vanishes an...
by SteveC
Thu May 05, 2011 9:09 am
Forum: General / IRC Help
Topic: Annyoing "security" policy
Replies: 63
Views: 138414

Re: Annyoing "security" policy

@zebedee Actually, it is not a good example. You could have better results if Undernet would cloak tor users like I've suggested and explained before. You can then simply ban the tor-cloak from your channel, while other channels can still allow tor users. Besides, there are still other proxies which...
by SteveC
Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:05 am
Forum: General / IRC Help
Topic: Annyoing "security" policy
Replies: 63
Views: 138414

Re: Annyoing "security" policy

@xplora That then comes back to why networks like Quakenet and Freenode have no problem to allow tor. Why the hate? Evasion? My suggestion would stop evasion while giving the freedom to decide to each and every chanop. Hiding? That also can't be much of a reason, since others here suggested +x or bo...
by SteveC
Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:14 pm
Forum: General / IRC Help
Topic: Annyoing "security" policy
Replies: 63
Views: 138414

Re: Annyoing "security" policy

@xplora I did not want to suggest to let a chanop ban someone from connecting to Undernet. That indeed would be silly and abused instantly. A chanop should never be able to set server/network-wide bans. My suggestion was that Undernet lifts the network-wide tor block (or k-line, g-line or however yo...
by SteveC
Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:38 pm
Forum: General / IRC Help
Topic: Annyoing "security" policy
Replies: 63
Views: 138414

Re: Annyoing "security" policy

@xplora I have to admit that you gave me a good laugh with that silly nitpickery. A k/g-line is a ban, no? You can argue about that if you want, but I'll stick to the Wikipedia definitions. For the affected user and chanop the result is the same. A channel cannot be joined. You're just evading my qu...
by SteveC
Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:21 pm
Forum: General / IRC Help
Topic: Annyoing "security" policy
Replies: 63
Views: 138414

Re: Annyoing "security" policy

@Carolyn34 The question bascially boils down to this: why doesn't Undernet give chanops the freedom to decide who to ban? If a channel doesn't want tor users, an op just needs to ban the hostmask of the cloak. Simple as that. Just like he would ban an ISP block. All other channels still could welcom...
by SteveC
Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:55 pm
Forum: General / IRC Help
Topic: Annyoing "security" policy
Replies: 63
Views: 138414

Re: Annyoing "security" policy

@Carolyn34 I think you're wrong with your conclusions. Evading by resetting your router works as long as you're using a big ISP. Most ops won't ban Verizon/Comcast/AT&T because that would effectively block too many innocent users. I welcome tor users on my channel and I never had a single proble...