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 Post subject: #zt is a joke
PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 1:19 am 

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To whom it may concern,

I joined #zt and requested emergency assistance for a channel problem. There were no ircops available. I waited over an hour, and when one finally did come (Blakjak), he told me I couldn't msg him. I can understand that if it were a small matter, but this was an emergency situation. He then told me if I messaged him again I would get ban. Then he proceeded to take 2 minutes waiting for each person to respond in the channel (and they were all out to lunch) instead of helping me when he KNEW i was there and in need of EMERGENCY assistance. This is sad. I understand the ircops of undernet are volunteers, however, that does not give them the right to be rude to users or to completly ignore them. IRCops need to be understanding of the users problems, and most of all, #zt needs to be staffed at all times. Most all of today there were no ircops there.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 2:21 pm 
#zT has it's rules.

Lets see if i still remember them.

1) The channel is always +m (moderate). When a channel is moderated (+m) it means that users in the channel either need to be active OPs or voiced (+v, or a '+' in front of their nick) to be able to talk in the channel.
In #zt, you'll get +v (voiced) when there's noone who joined the channel before you, waiting for help.
2) /msg-ing the OPs or helpers from that channel will make you get kicked or banned. That shall take you at the end of the line of people which shall be helped.

Btw, not anyone that says that he/she's an IRCop actually IS an IRCop.
To check that type /msg X verify nickname-here.

The thing you need to remember is that ANY user can add you in their ignore list.


  
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2003 7:56 am 
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Dear Braden,
you have to know that this is way #zT works. Everyone have to wait the queue (read bot`s notice on your join). Even if a channel need help for a takeover material which happening the time he/she is on #zT or even if the channel is opless and there is no hurry to be reopped, EVERYONE IS IN A QUEUE AND THIS MUST BE FOLLOWED BY EVERYONE WHO JOINS THE #zT! If you dont agree to this policy of the channel, you are pleased NOT TO JOIN IT. This way helping users, is created in order the channel work in an organized and polite way. Imagine if the +m and the queue werent *fact*, everyone would going tyo type his/her question and the channel would be a MESS! Another channel (Special for takeover material and reop stuff) is #Nastrand but they work as #zT . Also, i suggest you #irc_help (special, -m and open to state your problem without waiting)

Thanks for stating your problem, stef ( fets@Undernet )



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2003 6:54 am 

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Anyone who knows the history of #ZT will know the reasons we operate as described above. Unfortunately the help that all of us give out on Undernet is voluntary and in our spare time. #ZT is unique in that the help it gives out is fairly specialised, and that we have a strict training program in place for people to be given permission to help in #ZT. Also, helping in #ZT requires quite a bit of concentration from the helpers concerned and can be quite stressful. As a result, although I am on IRC a lot of the time, I cannot personally sit in #ZT and help people because the demands become too much when coupled with my other responsibilities (including my job).

If you feel youre not being treated fairly or reasonably in #ZT then by all means please drop me a private message and it will be investigated. However I would ask you to please be considerate of the helpers from #ZT (and the other similar channels) - if they have a process in place it is for a reason, it is not to try to make your life more difficult. We are here to help, but remember we're volunteers.

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BlakJak.
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2003 8:08 pm 
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hmmm...BlakJak or any other zt member..i am just curios :) does zt have any web-page?? Or it has but it is available only for the channel members?


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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2003 4:49 pm 
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I have to say...this channel must be a joke....long time ago when i needed their help , i had logs and everything...they didn't help....99% of the time....helpers are not available...service should be improved on this matter



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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2003 9:22 pm 
There are other channels you can ask for help in. Channels like #nastrand / #operhelp.


  
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2003 1:02 am 
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O well, i don't know much about this channels...but in conclusion:

#zT is a joke !

No such thing as ZERO TOLERANCE ! :-?



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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2003 7:19 am 
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Either you are plain dumb or playng/acting like one.. You should be reading the things people posted before you. Acting without thinking can result in things you won't like.. Dosen't matter you have a urgent problem or you sit there and watch what happens, you should wait in line like everyone else, NOONE is more or less important then the others. All people (as far as I see) are treated with the same care. If you don't like that channel then don't join it, try in a different help related channel, one listed above my post. Also, you will need some patience there to, I doubt you will be helped before others without waiting your turn..



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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2003 11:06 am 
Correction:

"Yo momma's so ugly when she joined an ugly contest, they said "Sorry, no professionals." -=> This is a joke, #zt is a channel.

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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2003 5:19 pm 
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lol
Trust me #zt could be much better...and i think what is happening on this channel is more of a joke then helping...just in my point of view :confused:



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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2003 11:24 am 
About time this topic gets 'accidentaly' locked.


  
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2003 10:29 am 
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Why/how did this topic get 'accidentally' locked? I see no abuse that would justify locking it. It is the spirit of this forum to be able to offer opinions and comments.

Eenie :(


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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2003 10:47 am 
A topic stating that, (i quote:) '#zt is a joke' wouldn't should have been open in the first place. Insulting a committee which works like #zt's, is not that clever. There are times when indeed, no helper is available. But here's where one's tolarence and pacience kick in.


  
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2003 11:10 am 
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#zt is not a committee afaik. "#zt is a joke" is doesn't sound like an insult to me, more like a personal opinion. people should be granted freedom of speech, as long as they don't cross the line of course.



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