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 Post subject: suspending username without a real reason
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 11:45 pm 
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Hi friends.
What can I do if someone from undernet suspended my username because:
"You didn't get suspended about nicks. You were suspended because we
believe
you registered more than one username and our evidence is that
there are more than one name with the same question and same answer
you used."

How to proove I dont have more usenames ?
I just wish to have one without suspending after 24 hours.
I wrote emails but without any help.
Instead of a real verification, people from undernet are just "believing".
I just wish a single username. How to register now again if your rules said I can register for one only? The only one I have is suspended.
What can I do now?



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:25 am 
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Basicaly, nothing can be done in here , you have to e-mail to usernames@undernet.org explaining all your problem in there how can you recover your username which has been suspended and watcha ya have to do to get unsuspended , but seems to be that`s a reply from usernames@undernet.org , isn't that true? well if that`s a reply from usernames@ there`s nothing you can do about it.... that username which is being suspended has to expire (to be deleted from X data base) in 60+ days and then you are able to re-register that username. And also using owning or registering more , or registering for another person like (friends cousins sisters brothers dads etc..) then ONE username is NOT tolerated/allowed to.
Keep this in mind. There is no need to lie.. Cservice adminstrators they weren't borned yesterday or today.... they are very experienced users.
Furthermore ask/seek for assistance in #UserNaMeS in UnderNet, but as i said if that`s a reply from usernames@undernet.org , there`s nothing you can do about it. you have to let the username to expire, after that username expires (deleted from X data base) you are able to re-register it.

And also i pressume this thread shouldn't be opened in this section. it`s not related to it, you should post this thread in Channel Services Help section.

Good luck :)

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:25 am 
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SpYdeRX wrote:
Basicaly, nothing can be done in here , you have to e-mail to usernames@undernet.org explaining all your problem in there how can you recover your username which has been suspended and watcha ya have to do to get unsuspended , but seems to be that`s a reply from usernames@undernet.org , isn't that true? well if that`s a reply from usernames@ there`s nothing you can do about it.... that username which is being suspended has to expire (to be deleted from X data base) in 60+ days and then you are able to re-register that username. And also using owning or registering more , or registering for another person like (friends cousins sisters brothers dads etc..) then ONE username is NOT tolerated/allowed to.
Keep this in mind. There is no need to lie.. Cservice adminstrators they weren't borned yesterday or today.... they are very experienced users.
Furthermore ask/seek for assistance in #UserNaMeS in UnderNet, but as i said if that`s a reply from usernames@undernet.org , there`s nothing you can do about it. you have to let the username to expire, after that username expires (deleted from X data base) you are able to re-register it.

And also i pressume this thread shouldn't be opened in this section. it`s not related to it, you should post this thread in Channel Services Help section.

Good luck :)

Regards,
Spidel

True, It's the reply from usernames.
But I never registerd for "And also using owning or registering more , or registering for another person like (friends cousins sisters brothers dads etc..) then ONE username is NOT tolerated/allowed to. "
My username is suspended wihout a real reason. :(
I had the same username 1 or 2 years ago, but I stop using mirc because of hacks, exploits and other things like that.
"Keep this in mind. There is no need to lie.. " I dont have to lie. I just want a single username.
"Cservice adminstrators they weren't borned yesterday or today.... they are very experienced users." I'm not so sure. I sent even my IP and all the details, but my only one username is banned. Cservice have no real reason to suspend my username, except the racism.
I was not wrong with something, but someone still suspended instead of a real verification.
I'm 34 years old, I'm not a child.
Are you sure it is not an abuse from cservice?
Remember the reason: "there are more than one name with the same question and same answer you used." That is not my problem. Nobody asked me to choose a special secret question or special answer.
Nobody told me "the x question or the y answer is no good and I'll suspend your username for using that".
Where I'm wrong? My username is still suspended without a real reason.
How to proove I dont have more usernames? How cservice can proove that? They just believe.

Thannk you for your help



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 11:24 am 
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Cservice administrators, they have their own ways, to find out if they are the real person, basicaly there`s nothing you can do about it, since that`s a reply from usernames@ , you have to wait untill that username will be deleted from X data base and then you are able to register it, or e-mail once again at usernames@undernet.org , regarding your username suspension and gave them a reason to believe you , about you don't use more then ONE username etc.. and if they accord you the second chance and they believe you, prolly they will unsuspend your username.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:41 pm 
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"they accord you the second chance"
Why do I need second chance?
I was not wrong with something. Can somebody understand that?
I really dont have more usernams, I no need more.
I understand the cservice's rules and I respected that.
I was thinking here is a free service for all the honest people.
A second chance for romanians even cservice have no proove I was wrong?
Sorry, that seems to be a kind of racism.
How someone can be a "specialist" if have no records ?
I'm thinking to the seriosity of undernet services
Yahoo, MSN, Skype and ICQ, AOL are free services too.
In the same way tomorow undernet can suspend all the usernames of romanians, people from Washington DC and other regions just because "someone believe".
What about suspending all the services of undernet because of promoting racism, terorism, computer hacking, selling illegal drugs and guns or kids pornography?
Someone can believe that too.



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:27 am 
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Just mail them and see what happens.
Did you even consider that also the people behind the services of Undernet are also human? If it is a mistake they can check it out eventually. So mail and stop whining?



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:45 am 
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I wrote because I'm sure, here is a mistake.
But the last answer is "Anyway, I have answered you. The discussion is closed."
I have ban on #cservice and #usernames .
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A very young man from Canada told me how to use illegal proyes and how to hack undernet servers protection or how to hide my IP using illegal methods. But I'm not that kind of person.



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Argghhh,, you have been told many times, don't you? they won't suspend a username without any reason at all of course sometimes they can be mistaken (imagine how many usernames has in this network) and nobody's perfect, that's why theirs always been a contact mail about some problems here in the network. In your side, as what they've been discussing lately just for your own good they told you to mail usernames@undernet.org and explain everything you've want to and it seems that you don't get it or even understand what are they trying to imply. You receive a ban on #usernames, #cservice? same with what I'm saying above, lameness will lead you to this and in fact I helped you last time and it seems that you understand that well, but you came back and another volunteer spare his time for you and acccckkkkk.. seems like his talking to a 7 year old boy, you keep on repeating asking the same questions and it takes almost half an hour and still nothing, no other choice but p00f there yah go goes out from the main. So, the best thing to do so far is to mail usernames@undernet.org explain from the very beginning if you want to and then let them understand your situation and if they replied on your mail, it doesn't mean that they're pretty dumb enough to suspend without a prior reason, of course everyone has a reason when it comes to this situation. I think that's all for now. :evil:



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:09 am 
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"there are more than one name with the same question and same answer" is the reason.
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I'm really curious what your verification question/answer is, and what the odds would be for other different people to have the EXACT same question & answer as yours



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Wolfyx wrote:
I'm really curious what your verification question/answer is, and what the odds would be for other different people to have the EXACT same question & answer as yours

I'm curious too and I was thinking to place a poll. But bad people ca use that poll in to exploit usernames and the topic of forum is
How can we improve undernet? not "how to destroy undernet".



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your sign name say romanian so lets say that you are in romania.

your connection can be via cable/phone or dsl.The dsl and the cable connections have static ip.From phone havent(like xnet) but you will have problems with register cause no permit cservice to reg a useraccount from this range.

Now.As you say:
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A very young man from Canada told me how to use illegal proyes and how to hack undernet servers protection or how to hide my IP using illegal methods. But I'm not that kind of person.


personaly cause I AM NOT IRCop and just a simple user i give the answer to this young canadian: HACK THIS-->(_*_)
but oups! i am not that kind of person.

well cause you say what did you said uper i think that you play the victim and nothing more.
You have static ip like me and you cannot do many thinks.THAT ALL.
You can follow many tools to hide your ip but still suspend you will receive cause and the http tunneling can be easily detected.

END OF STORY AND HAVE A NICE CHAT.

P.S chat=communication. TRY to understand that and dont blow anyone for susspending useraccounts cause sure they can prove via log connection ip`s on site/mirc from server and many many other things.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:53 pm 
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your sign name say romanian so lets say that you are in romania.

your connection can be via cable/phone or dsl.The dsl and the cable connections have static ip.From phone havent(like xnet) but you will have problems with register cause no permit cservice to reg a useraccount from this range.

Now.As you say:
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A very young man from Canada told me how to use illegal proyes and how to hack undernet servers protection or how to hide my IP using illegal methods. But I'm not that kind of person.


personaly cause I AM NOT IRCop and just a simple user i give the answer to this young canadian: HACK THIS-->(_*_)
but oups! i am not that kind of person.

well cause you say what did you said uper i think that you play the victim and nothing more.
You have static ip like me and you cannot do many thinks.THAT ALL.
You can follow many tools to hide your ip but still suspend you will receive cause and the http tunneling can be easily detected.

END OF STORY AND HAVE A NICE CHAT.

P.S chat=communication. TRY to understand that and dont blow anyone for susspending useraccounts cause sure they can prove via log connection ip`s on site/mirc from server and many many other things.

"TRY to understand that and dont blow anyone for susspending useraccounts cause sure they can prove via log connection ip`s on site/mirc from server and many many other things."
Don't be so sure. In my case I was not worng.
"i think that you play the victim and nothing more." Teach me please how to register for a single username, ONCE. Tell me what secret question and answer to choose. I really wish to see a log.
"The dsl and the cable connections have static ip." Maybe yours. I don't have a static IP even I'm using cable. Learn first please. I hope you are not an undernet administrator too :wink:
Why is so hard for some people to believe that here could be an undernet mistake?



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Teach me please how to register for a single username, ONCE. Tell me what secret question and answer to choose.


step one: go to http://cservice.undernet.org/live ans select there where is typed create one

IF your REAL IP didnt heve registered a user account up to the moment

then you will see the follow to choose:
Step 1 / 7
I am 13 or older
or
I am younger than 13

if you are younger than 13 then play spider on your pc else the next step is:
Step 2 / 7
Choose a username.
explain for that? i dont thing so.

step 3/7
Please enter your primary email address. Use your ISP email address where possible.
you have cable so you have minim one mail from them.

step 4/7
chose the language
english is ok
you can change that after login.

step 5/7
choose a secret question!!!!
what a big problem.
what is your mother`s maiden name<-------you can type the real name just like that
what is your dog`s(cat`s) name!!! if you have you know better if not just dont choose this question
what is your father`s birthday<-------if you choose this question you can give your own day birthday

(too difficult to choose a question and to give just a answer!)
the secret question you will need ONLY if you forgett your password

step 6/7
now you have to type what you see to foto
letters and numbers.Nothing special on that.isnt it?
SORRY no copy/paste.JUST TYPE WHAT YOU SEE.

step 7/7
submit query

dificult? no. just push the button
and you will see th msg:
your registration email has been sent.Please wait to receive,and then follow the instructions it contains to continue.

END.(for the moment)

open your mail
the mail that you has given on step 3.
then you will see the magic mail:
To continue the registration process go to http://cservice.undernet.org/live/confi ... ...........
just type on it.
you will see the password!!!
the initial password lokks like LTsuRPT0
you have to write somewhere.
then you go to :
http://cservice.undernet.org/live/
and you will make the first login!!!!!
user name: the user that you choose to step 2
password: you have it in your hand
attention: the password must be given EXACT as you have.caps with caps.
after the first login
you can choose: new password and change that to something more easy for you to remember.

THATS ALL!
/MSG X HELP LOGIN
and x tells you how to make login to your client
/mode nick +x
to mask your ip.
if you want you can put the commands to perform.
the second command is //mode $me +x <----to perform

you dont know where is perform on mirc? you have xchat? you have pirch?
the magic button F1 is for help if you doesnt know wher is the help file on your client.

I AM NOT an undernet administrator and excuse me but as i know:
the rds and the astral give static ip (also i am not so sure if you say that isnt true).evolva have range ip also allocated to every node.(no static but half:P).

NOW YOU KNOW HOW TO MAKE A REGISTER.
DONT FORCE REGISTER WITH PROXY TOOLS HIDDING YOUR IP.
MORE HELP FOR ALL THAT ON UNDERNET EXIST MANY MANY HELP CHANNELS.(OFFICIAL OR NOT) ASK A HELP AND YOU WILL HAVE IT.
REMEMBER THAT ALL WE ARE VOLUNTIARS AND MIRC IS JUST A HOBBY AND COMMUNICATION TOOL.

BTW
if someone susspend a user account then you have to know that NOONE make that without research.DONT force to gives you prove cause sure they can.Also exist and the third eye(like thejudje).
also if you type /motd and you are on bucharest connected then you will see:
Folosirea acestui server este un privilegiu, nu un drept.

respect that to respect you.

THATS ALL.
END OF STORY.

NOW YOU CAN SAY THAT YOU ARE HELPED.
have a nice chat.


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Teach me please how to register for a single username, ONCE. Tell me what secret question and answer to choose.


step one:

NOW YOU CAN SAY THAT YOU ARE HELPED.
have a nice chat.


Works
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